Figured Out Paul-Peter Thinng

The Journey That is Life.

I have always wondered what the core issue was with Paul and Peter, what Paul was so annoyed about, what the core difference was between the two.  I finally I think figured it out.  

Paul I think saw Jesus as a new Adam that had come forward to try and achieve, which was an end to hypocrisy within Judaism itself with the separation of the elite from the rest, and end to separation of Jew and Gentile, to bring forth the grafting spoken of in the Pentateuch.  Paul took his authority from his profound spiritual experience and encounter, which the elite followers did not look kindly upon.  He was the outsider, so they did all they could to discredit him and particularly since he called them out all their crap, my kind of guy, had guts and spunk.  Sound familiar to anyone in this election cycle?   Peter was not so courageous and I think that cowardice of a sorts annoyed Paul at times, which would have annoyed me as well I think.  Remember with the walking on water how he then got scared, how he denied Jesus and he was not willing to be seen by the elite in mixed company and was trying to play both sides kind of.  Paul was not having it and he stood up to Peter and reminded him that the new Adam Jesus had reminded everyone that the New Covenant was written in the heart and so the Torah was no longer law and obligation, and for the convert was a matter of choice, as was acceptance of the one true God.  

Paul hated hypocrisy, not soul searching, theological soul searching, discerning that he was fine with, open discussion and theological debate under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.  What  he could not abide was kissing up to the elite to look good and being a yes man just to look good or climb the ladder, that pissed him off royally, again, my kind of guy.  He challenged people when they needed to be challenged, gave them a kick in the rear when they needed it, so I identify with Paul in that regard I guess.  Some Jews resented Paul, especially as they feel he is rejecting the Torah and basically spitting on it, but that may not really be the case.  He may have been seeing things from a more profound metaphysical, spiritual perspective than a legalistic and ritualistic perspective, much like Jesus did.  It might just be a different perspective and when instructions for how the new management is to be implemented is given and a unified theology of sorts, it might again be perspective, the perspective of seeking to create cohesion among Jew and Gentile, as well as Jews themselves without elitism.  Just something to think about, something that came to me as I make my journey of discernment.  

Shalom and Amen

Why The Rejection of Christian Messiah?


The tension between the Jewish and Christian faith, understanding of Messiah, as well as the requirements of Messiah including family lineage, something I was unaware of until I started to study and research.  Why can’t true Jews accept Jesus, is it because they do not want to be “saved”?  No, so what is going on here?  A few things.  I will take it point by point.

First, God’s own words.  He says after they make the mistake in the Garden of trying to take on knowledge too soon that God knew they were not ready for, out of ego, that the ground and their labor is cursed, but not in the way Christians have come to understand cursed. It is because now humans rely on their own ego, on their own whims, on the ego and flesh self rather than divine aspect of self and consciousness to operate.  That is the sin, not original sin as understood by Christians, for that is something alien to God, the Jews and the Tenakh.  God himself makes it clear to Moses and others that no one pays for the sin of the other, each is responsible for their own crap, their own stupidity so on and so forth.  “Every man shall be put to death for his own sin.’ This concept is repeated in the Prophets, in Ezekiel 18: ‘The soul that sinneth, it shall die… the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.”  God also makes it clear that he accepts no sacrifice of flesh, for that is an abomination to him.  With all this, it is logical that the Jewish people can not accept Jesus as the Messiah.

Second, One God Only.  A Trinity, a multi faceted deity is Pagan to the Jews and Muslims also.  God can only be one as he stated himself in the commandments.  For them, this notion of a son, of a Trinity, three Gods, but yet one is God contradicting God and that won’t wash with them.  Either God is one as he said in the beginning or he was very confused or was not truthful?  When he speaks of let us create man in our image, by Jewish understanding he is talking to the sum of creation, which might explain why we have certain holdovers in our bodies and DNA because we are the sum total of creation.  

Third, Messiah, not the word Christians use for Messiah, is born of Two Human Parents and traces the lineage back to David,  through King Solomon (II Samuel 7:12-17; I Chronicles 22:9-10, which Jesus does not, he traces it back through Solomon’s brother and his Messianic lineage is according to the Christian understanding of Messiah through Mary and God’s Spirit being the dad.  That’s not what the Bible says in regards to the lineage of the Messiah.  For the Jewish people they could not accept Jesus and still today, real Jews can’t if they are to remain true to the world of the Tenakh.  Not to say they can’t appreciate that Yeshua played an important role in seeking to reform Judaism from being way too legalistic, more maybe Kabbalistic, and spiritual, they can.  Also according to Jewish theology,  The Messiah may not be a descendant of Jehoiakim, Jeconiah, or Shealtiel, because this royal line was cursed. (I Chronicles 3:15-17; Jeremiah 22:18,30). But according to Matthew 1:11-12 and Luke 3:27, Jesus was a descendant of Shealtiel.   Traditional Jewish definition of the term, means that  Messiah will make changes in the real world, changes that one can see and perceive and be able to prove, precisely because they take place in the real world the first time he comes. It is for this task that the Messiah has been anointed in the first place, hence the term, messiah — one who is anointed. These perceptible changes include: 6. The Messiah reestablishes the Davidic dynasty through his own children (Daniel 7:13-14).
But Jesus had no children.  In addition, according to the Tenakh, Messiah brings  eternal peace between all nations, all peoples, and all people (Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-4; Ezekiel 39:9). Again, he does this the first time around through world leadership.  Obviously there is no peace. Furthermore, Jesus said that his purpose in coming was to bring a sword, and not peace (see Matthew 10:34, as referenced above). and The Messiah brings about the all  to Ethical Monotheism (Jeremiah 31:31-34; Zechariah 8:23; Isaiah 11:9; Zechariah 14:9,16).  
This did not happen with Jesus, so for the Jewish people, he did not meet that requirement either.  Based on the Tenakh, Jewish understanding and theology of the Messiah, it is logical they can not accept Jesus as the Anointed One for the world.

Before we go feeling sorry for the Jewish people and have a zeal to convert the and the whole world, we might want to understand the Tenakh, what is also referred to as the Old Testament through the original source of theology, Jewish Theology.  I personally, think the original source is the accurate source and Yeshua really came to reform Judaism, make it less legalistic.